how low can they go?.
if i remember correctly, this is the lowest number of gb members the wt has had since the gb arrangement started.
they dont seem to be in any hurry to appoint any new gb members.
How low can they go?
If I remember correctly, this is the lowest number of GB members the WT has had since the GB arrangement started. They don’t seem to be in any hurry to appoint any new GB members. They might not want any new blood that might rock the status quo. Why rock the boat with new members when you can use any of the rank and file to do your bidding. If a few more GB’s die, how many Governing Body members can the WT get away with and still function as an organization? Two, three?
did the resurrection start in 1918/1919 or the first century?.
the wt teaches that the anointed started getting resurrected sometime around 1918/1919.
before that everyone was asleep in the grave, including all the apostles.
Did the resurrection start in 1918/1919 or the first century?
The WT teaches that the anointed started getting resurrected sometime around 1918/1919. Before that everyone was asleep in the grave, including all the apostles.
Jesus was in heaven preparing a place for them.
(John 14:2, 3) . . .I am going my way to prepare a place for YOU. 3 Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for YOU, I am coming again and will receive YOU home to myself, that where I am YOU also may be.
But the apostle Paul said he preferred to die (Right Away) and be resurrected instantly to be with Christ.
(Philippians 1:21-24) New World Translation
23 I am under pressure from these two things; but what I do desire is the releasing and the being with Christ, for this, to be sure, is far better. 24 However, for me to remain in the flesh is more necessary on YOUR account.
New International Version says the same thing.
NIV Phillippians 1: 21-24 I am torn between the two:If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body
I asked a JW elder whom I used to serve with to explain this to me. He said he would research and get back to me right away.
It’s going on 6 weeks and I still haven’t heard from him.
And I’m not going to call him either.
Kind of reminds me of another promise.
(Revelation 2:16) . . .I am coming to you quickly
i am sure that the gb does not care about the r&f jw.
it does not care about the organization collapsing overnight.. why do i say this?.
in 2013 the organization declared that the "faithful and discreet slave" consisted only of the seven member of the gb.
since most of the men are in their 60's and up this is their retirement funding support.
If you were in their position would like to see all of that crumble down and taken away ?
If I had sacrificed all my life to the WT and eventually became a GB and never had an opportunity to pay into social security or some retirement fund or get an education to support myself.
And if my wife depended on me financially, medically, and all my support system depended on me being loyal to the WTS, what would I do if I woke up to TTATT in my 50s or 60s? Would I become an apostate and get myself and my wife kicked out on the curb with no one to help us in any way? All family and friends would shun us.
I would keep my mouth shut and live the life of pleasure and privilege and travel around the world and let the WTS pay
for me and my wife’s food, clothing , medical, and dental until we died.
The GB today is different from the GB of yester-years. They are inundated with tons of information regarding 607-1914. They know they don’t have the truth.
i am sure that the gb does not care about the r&f jw.
it does not care about the organization collapsing overnight.. why do i say this?.
in 2013 the organization declared that the "faithful and discreet slave" consisted only of the seven member of the gb.
After taking over all property and extra cash from all congregations on the whole planet, which amounts to at the very least US$ 50 billion, they are in a great position if every one leaves, they can just share the cash between themselves.
the GB does not care about the R&F JW. It does not care about the organization collapsing overnight.
I think your right!
having recently had an "awakening" - not from reading awake .... i realize i can not preach doctrines i do not believe anymore .
but i do not want the elders to start following my every move, because i also have plans to check other christian denominations.. so i am thinking, should i chat for an hour or two with an old visit and report the hours, should i tell the elders i have some doubts and i do not want to preach for now or should i just stop reporting and avoid the elders attempts to talk to me?
what do you think is the best sollution to get away with this?
Just lie about your hours. Turn in 3 or 4 hrs just to keep them off you back until you can fade. If they question you, tell them you haven't been feeling well. Which is true, you haven't been feeling well since you don't believe in their doctrines.
They have lied to you all these years and they will continue to lie to you without blinking and eyelid.
Don't try to play fair because they won't.
the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.
but i would say it's hard for brothers also.
i was talking to a jw last night.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?????
as a member on bart ehrman's blog, i am able to ask him direct questions.is jehovah in the bible?.
question:.
how firmly grounded in reality is the claim of jehovahs witnesses that the divine name (jehovah) belongs in the new testament?.
Thanks for posting that Terry, I had never even thought of seeing the Gospels or the Bible the way Bart describes it.
Do we really spend our lives finding meaning only in the brute facts of what happened before, and in nothing else?
Think about the things that matter to us: our families, friends, work, hobbies, religion, philosophy, country, novels, poetry, music, good food, and good drink. Do we really think that the brute facts about the past are the only things that matter?
not on the front page, not in the study articles, but carefully camouflaged in the questions from readers on page 18 (watchtower march 15, 2015).
you can bet most jws wont even read it..
there is no apology...just the usual excuses..
Type = (Matthew 24:45) . . .“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave . . .
Antitypes = Governing Body
Sooooo?
i've been dating a jw girl for about 4 years and we've recently had a lot of issues with the fact that her family doesn't like that i'm not a jw.
i've been looking into the religion and am interested in it.
but is it wrong to join just so i don't lose her?
Daniel, have you had the opportunity to date other girls? There is nothing wrong with comparing before you sign the contract.
i've been looking for a video done by someone who shows the warning by jesus saying "if anyone comes to you and say's "the appointed time is near" you are to run from them!
two people who left the watchtower said this has been one of the most powerful videos to get inside the heads of really smart elders and witnesses that don't come the regular way.. the gist of the video is the watchtower wrote a book called "the appointed time is near" and this goes against everything jesus christ warned people.
the problem with the watchtower's followers is they need "omens", "portents", "signs" to keep their followers following along their path lead by that dried up old carrot (the end) or (the appointed time).
One really doesn't have to see a video but read the bible with careful attention.
Those are great references for an average person or someone who has learn TTATT, but JWs are not average persons. The WT has been dumbing down its members for years and it would be a rare event to be able to get one JW to sit down and go over those references.
The WT has deliberately reduce the intellectual level of education, reasoning ability, and critical thinking of its members.
They not only demonize education, but also any other source of information that might make them aware of truth.
In order for them to listen and learn, a person needs to appeal to them as if appealing to someone with little education or intelligence. For them it may involve over-simplification of an idea. (Think Caleb and Sophia) That’s the stuff that gets their attention.
So a 5 minute video might help them more than reasoning with some of the information that we are familiar.
Give them too much or information that is too deep, and they will start fidgeting like little kids and run like scared rabbits.
